Class:COM352 - Group Dynamics - Spring 2008/course outlines and in-class activities/fourth day of class/identifying framing
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First Identifications of Frame
sedona01's thread on decision-making "COM352 FARC"
principles that order experience
- the world of college… only having time to complete tasks that are most meaninful
- largely concerned with, as one responder put it, “payoffâ€â€¦. cost-benefit analysis
- being more concerned with the grade you recieve then the acutal education to are being subjected to.
- being comfortable with how things are going according to everyone else’s standards is very common (e.g., confusion)
- it was really on your own terms if you wanted to attend
- not attending to the protest are similar because they both have no previous knowledge
- only ‘give’ (takes time, energy and money)and ‘no gain’ (instant improvement toward the subject and missing other classes) situation.
- chose not to attend the event in Boston because they felt they had a lack of information about the event and why others were protesting
- not mandatory for class and would be a major inconvenience
- he is taking what he has always been told is important, school etc and putting it first
- prior commitments, mainly college, getting in the way
subjective involvement
- I could just be projecting my own thoughts and feelings on others. This I noticed on people’s replies, how some facts where stated based on what I had written, but other things that were not directly stated were assumed or filled in by others in order to reach a conclusion.â€
- the suggestion to attend by a teacher may have been a deterrent for many students as it might not be “sincereâ€.
- (I don’t think there is a clear structure to the course as of yet)
- I don’t know many people who would pick up when they had things to do and go support something they know nothing about. I think this is obvious when you look at the class and realize no one besides Steph attended.
Thumpasorus' entry on decision-making "About a Protest"
Principles that order experience
- doubt about the effectiveness of the protest as well as having inadequate information.
- not educated well-enough on this subject,
- concerned that his presence at the protest will have little to no affect.
- “Conformity is inaction, allowing things to be how they are.
- “My decision making explanation is one formula for inaction, which may be perceived as conformity by some people.â€
- supporting the protest in Boston, but were unable to attend due to other obligations.
- Neither had any personal involvement with No Mas FARC so therefore couldn’t justify attending.
- no personal gain
- So all in all it seems as though subjective involvement plays a large role in the decision making process. It you have prior experience, or something directly affects you, you’re clearly to be more passionate than someone who is completely new to the subject.
- expected to make school one of our top priorities, if not the top priority.
- pretty out of the ordinary for a teacher to ask so much from their students,
- During this class we have been continuously expected to make decisions based on our own perceptions,
- our society has placed a large emphasis on the individual, unless something directly effects you, it is of no importance.
- prior obligations as well as believing that since their attendance would not make or break the protest
- agreed with the FARC protest they did not relate to it on a personal level and did
- I have many other things that I need to do
- when someone is already passionate and knowledgeable about a subject it is easier for them to relate to it
- does not know enough
- conflict of schedule and resources
- a student short on resources,
- the mindset of an American
- Americans tend to think in terms of themselves as individuals with personal goals
- do not look to a large scale, greater good when making decisions.
- minimal effort.
Subjective involvement
- struck me as some form of an attack
- I laughed when I read it, because I appreciate people who try to “cut through the bullshit.â€
- If my response was a little curt it might have had to do with the fact that I just read a novel (your blog) and I was a little tired and wanted to write a response and be done with it since yours was my last blog to respond to.
- there’s no way I’m reading this post again…
- Ap1115’s and Sardona1’s posts seem to have suspicion and doubt
- “Conformity is inaction, allowing things to be how they are. So this is what I am doing.†But then later states, “My decision making explanation is one formula for inaction, which may be perceived as conformity by some people.†Is Sardona1 some people, or are they coming from a different frame?
- attending the protest would feel insincere since she didn’t know much about the protest.
- protesting is just not for them;
- not a good thing. Our society is way too focused on the betterment of the individual and not society.
- important to become aware
- more honest and thoughtful
- felt “out of place.â€
- seem to support the protest overall
- different feelings about the effectiveness and purpose of protesting.
- to reach a conclusion that was in line with his values.
- generally what we care about is our own comfort and enjoyment.
Apoulos’entry “Decision-Makingâ€
principles that order experience
- most people want immediate results in all that they do
- doesn’t want to outright condemn the protest,
- concerned about keeping relationships close
- chosen to not attend the protest because of self oriented reasons, but have been arguably influenced by society.
- a college frame in which learning is taking place
- certain obligations to their courses.
- had it been a class requirement then he would have to consider going but because it is not an obligation, there is no need
- difference can be made in the world is through violent means
- directly affected any of these three students in an intimate manner, then under that frame they would ideally feel obligated to attend.
- some kind of meaningful link between the situation in Columbia and themselves would be known as subjective involvement.
subjective involvement
- I’m only joking
- trying to improve relations among the group.
- keeping relationships close, which is good.
- I was a little confused
- I believe
- sees no point in protesting
- solution to problems is a bit alarming.
- I think

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